Two J type vans for sale.

There are two vans currently for sale, the first is on e-bay.
Up for sale due to loss of undercover storage my 1960 Morris JB van. Complete,umolested,genuine comes with two replacement sills. Will be needed see photos. 100% complete. Engine runs,( not recently) Good gear box. Rare factory fitted passenger seat. Twin wiper motors. Underneath photos show that the chassis is in very good order, just the sills are gone both sides, but new ones supplied. Missing windscreen is in van. 1489 cc over head valve B series engine last ran about 3 years ago. Van is on the Isle of Wight. Can deliver at cost of ferry plus fuel if needed. Any questions phone 07785 516755 Jon.
Been kept in secure storage last 7 years. Last on road about 1990.
Have V5 etc. Will require deposit of £ 1000 before delivery via paypal or cheque/ bankers draft, cash balance upon delivery. Or come to the sunny IOW with your trailer and collect her yourself.
Being sold by Jon, an I.O.W. plumber who also owns another van (ex Don Dracup). This is an early 1960 and is an excellent project vehicle. It is a local van, been on the island for many years.

Item number 230815136250
The second is an ice cream van and is for sale in classic car buyer,
Morris JB , 1959, offers. Original coach built ice-cream van. Phone, 07415-616364. East Yorkshire.


My own project JB van has passed its MOT, it is now sitting on axle stands under the carport as I'm about to remove the rear axle for an overhaul and alter the rear axle ratio from 5.625 to 5.125 to 1.  This equals about a 9% reduction in engine RPM. This change is to lower engine noise/RPM at any given road speed and to improve the MPG on a long run, it is not that I want to go faster.
I will be doing a "blog" on this modification and will be taking plenty of pictures as I undertake this job.

The penny has dropped.

The rear doors on e-bay have generated many e-mails, it took a phone call to wake me up as to where the doors came from. (Thanks H.)

Do you remember this ex GPO planners van that was sold on e-bay recently? I had forgotten about it as I had heard it was going to join the fleet of other vans that have been converted into ice cream/burgers/fish & chip vehicles, plying there trade on the south bank of the Thames in London.

A couple of the vehicles that they have converted have been well done and a great improvement to what they had become, its a great shame one other van they purchased was such a rare mini-bus with all its original fittings, ended up being converted.

Note the holes in the body work where the GPO lamps were mounted due to the rubber wings.

The pile of GPO planners van spares, note the curved partition section.

It could be good news if some of the parts they remove when the vans are converted (80% of the body work is removed and not used) are offered for sale, there are still many project vans out there in urgent need of doors, Door pockets, roof sections etc.

J van rear doors, an e-bay item.

An e-bay item, a pair of j type rear doors.
Advert states "Original doors from a Morris J Van believed to be approximately 1959.

What you see is what you get, there are no others parts or pieces that come with these

Collection from South East London only. Cash only on collection.

Any questions please ask

Thanks for looking "

Thanks to HBF263 for this information.

The latest news.

The recent JB ice cream van on e-bay, although sold for £10,300 is back on the e-bay again, why? purchaser failed to pay? or maybe it was a hoax bid? Will we ever know?
Seems it has lost its original registration and does indeed have an age related number issued. I hope somebody will buy this and save it, but it won't be me, I've never been keen on ice cream vans of any make.
JB's JB blog has been updated as he went with his van to a local Australian rally in

Yarra Glyn 20.05.12.

Do check out his blog, to see some of the other interesting vehicles there.
The official news about pre-1960 vehicle MOT's,
"Classic and historic vehicles are to be exempted from yearly MoT tests, the government has announced.

Vehicles manufactured before 1960 will no longer have to have to pass an MoT from 18 November, Roads Minister Mike Penning said.

The vehicles make up about 0.6% of the total number of licensed vehicles in Britain but are involved in just 0.03% of road casualties and accidents.

It follows a campaign by the All-Party Parliamentary Historic Vehicles Group.

Mr Penning said the government was committed to cutting out red tape which cost motorists money "without providing significant overall benefits".

"Owners of classic cars and motorbikes tend to be enthusiasts who maintain their vehicles well - they don't need to be told to look after them, they're out there in all weathers checking the condition of the engine, tyres and bodywork," he said.

"Owners of classic vehicles will still be legally required to ensure that they are safe and in a proper condition to be on the road but scrapping the MoT test for these vehicles will save motorists money."

Interesting news about pre-1960 vehicle MOT's, full details to follow but the plan is all pre 1960 vehicles won't need an MOT, I worry about this for various reasons.I wonder how many people will now buy a cheap pre 60's car, no need an MOT, free Tax and cheap club insurance, use it and drive it into the ground as a very cheap form of commuting to and from work. That would reflect badly on proper old vehicle enthusiasts.

Or the "con men" out there, spotting an old car in a field, getting the details from it, applying for a V5c(log book), getting the V5c and then getting the cheapest insurance, this vehicles number plate could now be sold. Maybe they could even spot your project vehicle when you have your garage doors open and do the same to you.

You never know what these "con" men are up too. 

Back to the MOT situation, I think I know a bit about vehicles but I think a fresh pair of eyes looking at your pride and joy may well spot something you have missed, I'm always happy to take a vehicle for the test, I want to know if something is wrong with it. 

My JB van is on hire this week, promoting our local Diamond Jubilee event, live bands, picnics, hot food and a HOG roast, plenty of things for the kids to do. Running from noon  till 10pm. The van is currently bedecked in flags and posters for the event and is being driven around our village and is also parked in various prominent locations to promote this event. I must get the camera fixed and and take a couple of snaps.

The Queens 60th.

Here are a few pictures of some of the aircraft that took part in a fly past over Windsor Castle this morning.
Some copied from the TV broadcast and some taken by me from my garden,  I'm so close to Windsor most of them kindly flew over my house.

A JB ice cream van on e-bay.

1950S MORRIS JB ICE CREAM VAN.ALL COMPLETE APART FROM FREZZER AND COMPRESSOR.ALL WOOD FRAMING DONE.GOOD PROJECT GOOD INVESTMENT.EMAILS ONLY.COLLECTION WITHIN 3 DAYS.NO BUY NOW.CAN BE FULLY RESTORED AT BUYERS CHOICE.
I have this down as an Ex Lewis's ices van.
I think the original number was WED 438, I wonder if its still with the van. Looks a good project.

Latest e-bay for sales.

The sellers advert is.

MORRIS JB WINGS

THEY NEED A LITLLE (little) WORK BUT NOTHING MANGER (major).

WILL FIT MOST VANS/ICE CREAM VANS

VERY RARE

 PICK UP ONLY NO POSTAGE.

Starting price is £400, rather high I feel, as Fairmile will make you a new pair for much less than that, headlamp bases might be useful, I know one owner has recently made a pair in fiberglass and another owner is having a batch made in a brass/bronze mix. As we all know a slight knock on the headlamp shell or somebody leaning on it at a rally and the weak Marzack (muckmetal) base cracks.

New pattern Lucas 700 headlamp bowls can be had for about £40 each, check out a kit car parts suppler. Still as the owner quiet rightly states, a rare item.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MORRIS-JB-WINGS-/140747050518?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item20c52d8e16#ht_724wt_1196

Further updates.

Well I have delivered my differential to the transmission specialist who does not seem to be fazed by the job in hand. To remove one differential and replace it with my "NEW" 4.55 to 1 ratio unit.. He has never worked on this type of axle and will have to make the necessary shims to ensure correct meshing/backlash between the gears.
Until the old differential is removed and can be measured we wont know exactly what is required to fit my "NEW" one.
As there is a slight chance of some work for the van coming up in the next couple of months, I will not be removing the JB's rear axle till early July.
I'm pleased to say the Australian JB's JB Blog has been updated with some rally pictures taken in Melbourne, do check it out.
A van recently changed hands via e-bay in Australia. The new owner Sandy has been doing a fair bit of work on the van over the last few months and made a very nice discovery.

As the new owner states " It has taken plenty of hard work to get it to this stage, even though it looks far from finished it's nearly there.

The above pictures shows a painted stamped date. Sandy explained "Just the other day I was removing the passenger side front guard when I noticed painted on the chassis the date ' 9 AUG  1960 .' WOW what a discovery , I was really chuffed !! to think that this date was painted on all those years ago and it`s survived the test of time. According to the records my serial number dates my van to late 1960 so this confirms that. I wonder if any one else has found this on their J / JB Van .....


My list of chassis numbers at the bottom of this blog will be updated with this information.
45056 is late 1959 and is JB's JB van.
45648       Jan 1960
46009       Feb 1960
46713       Aug 1960 Sandy's van.
47648      Dec 1960
47907      Dec 1960
I wonder if any more number are still to be found, all will help to build up the production list.

A new ratio differential for my JB van.

A 9/41 or 4.55 to 1 crown wheel and pinion.

A much better ratio than the original 5.625 to 1.
Why do I want to fit this? No not to go faster but to reduce engine noise in the cab and maybe on a run improve my MPG.